{"id":77835,"date":"2026-10-02T12:29:58","date_gmt":"2026-10-02T02:29:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.betfair.com.au\/hub\/?p=77835"},"modified":"2026-10-02T13:14:08","modified_gmt":"2026-10-02T03:14:08","slug":"lay-back-with-betfair-with-david-pfundt-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.betfair.com.au\/hub\/education\/lay-back-education\/lay-back-with-betfair-with-david-pfundt-2\/","title":{"rendered":"LAY BACK WITH BETFAIR: AI AND API WITH DAVID PFUNDT"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">Who is David Pfundt?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>A chance afternoon with a few mates set the wheels in motion for David Pfundt, a data specialist who hails from a farm near Beaconsfield in Tasmania.<\/p>\n<p>With a background in computing and data analytics, Pfundt described himself as no more than a casual racing fan.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy uncle did train some slow horses in Tasmania, but as a kid I probably had only a recreational interest in it,\u201d Pfundt said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI did my degree in Tasmania which was a Bachelor of Computing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI started with a small consulting company in Launceston.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI spent a few months there and applied for a job at Telstra and managed to talk my way into it,\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cox Plate day 2015 will always be remembered as a time when Winx started arguably the most incredible run in the history of the sport, with the first of four wins in the premier weight for age race. 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A few months later I realised you have to work to be successful at it, so I started thinking \u2018where\u2019s the data\u2019 I can use.\u201d<\/p>\n\n          <\/div>\n                            <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n                <div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">What is Form King?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>\u201cForm king is a cloud based database and platform. It\u2019s more than just a database. Everything is positioned for me to be able to service business to consumer clients,\u201d Pfundt said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was a calling maybe, I don\u2019t know. 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