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Who are the Noonan’s?<\/h2>\n
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Racing has been in the Noonan family\u2019s blood for generations.<\/p>\n

David Noonan was a stud manager and trainer in the early 90s, and days at the races through those years came with a pair of keen youngsters in tow.<\/p>\n

Sons Nick and Travis were born into racing, and the passion has grown into careers spanning nearly every aspect of the sport.<\/p>\n

From race calling, to mounting yard analysis, to punting and form, the brothers have become trusted and respected voices on racing across radio, tv and print.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe were definitely born into racing, it was not something we chose necessarily.\u201d Travis said.<\/p>\n

\u201cDad was a stud manager for a fair period of time in the early 90s. He dealt with At Talaq who won a Melbourne cup in 1986.”<\/p>\n

\u201cDuring that time mum worked at Pat Hyland\u2019s stables. That made sure we were involved in racing from a very early age.”<\/p>\n

\u201cI asked mum, and she said I watched my first race at about 6 weeks old.\u201d<\/p>\n

Brother Nick shared a similar perspective.<\/p>\n

\u201cI was keen on footy when I was younger. When I got to 14-15 with footy at two o\u2019clock I decided I\u2019d rather watch the races.”<\/p>\n

\u201cI half remember going to Mornington when I was three or four and we had a winner,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n\n <\/div>\n

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IGNITING THE PASSION<\/h2>\n
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The brothers reflected on moments from their early days that further fed their drive.<\/p>\n

\u201cI would have been five when the Sunline\/Northerly rivalry happened around that 2001 spring. I remember watching those with real intent,\u201d Travis said.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt was never a question we wanted to own horses and race in our family colours with dad. Our first win was on Cup day but at Echuca.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cIn the early days I was a big Elvstroem fan. I went to the Australian Cup when he beat Makybe Diva. And also Lonhro\u2019s Australian Cup the next year,\u201d Nick added.<\/p>\n

\u201cI was really in love with the horses we owned and would travel around for their races.\u201d<\/p>\n

The brothers have travelled different paths through the sport, with Travis cutting his teeth as a race caller which is where his biggest passion lies.<\/p>\n

\u201cI\u2019m a free agent for hire,” he joked.<\/p>\n

\u201cI\u2019m still race calling which is a massive passion of mine. I think I\u2019ve reached a point where I\u2019m competent at it. But getting opportunities in Victoria is very hard.”<\/p>\n

\u201cOver the past two years I\u2019ve done a lot of form analysis for RSN, doing major race days and jumping on air.”<\/p>\n

\u201cThose jobs can also be few and far between. You might be very busy one week and not so much the next.”<\/p>\n

\u201cI had a really good grounding at Racing.com as well,\u201d Travis said.<\/p>\n

For Nick, time spent at the track with his old man gave him a keen eye for horse presentation. This grew into mounting yard analysis which goes hand-in-hand with form.<\/p>\n

\u201cGrowing up and going to track work, early days I thought I was going to be a trainer. But assessing and learning off Dad, how horses present, and how they look in their prep. So, I started going a bit more through racing.com and was filming the yard and got talking to people and it went from there,” Nick said.<\/p>\n

\u201cI have landed a bit of a role with RSN as well. Form wise I do a bit of Tasmanian form with Racing.com. I do a bit of mounting yard stuff on Wednesday and Saturdays to my subscribers.”<\/p>\n

\u201cI tried to return to footy which didn\u2019t go to plan so gearing up big time for spring.\u201d<\/p>\n\n <\/div>\n

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ANALYSING FORM<\/h2>\n
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When it comes to assessing form, both brothers use their professions to enhance their punting and vice versa.<\/p>\n

\u201cI approach a meeting I\u2019m calling in much the same way as if I was doing the form. For a Victorian meeting it might be five-six hours of form. Not necessarily all at once. I use form king racing and some punting form stuff. I cross check it with replays and my personal thoughts. Things I might like about runners,\u201d Travis said.<\/p>\n\n <\/div>\n

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USING DATA VS THE EYE<\/h2>\n
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The brothers spoke about the balance between the use of data and what your eye is telling you.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe value in data comes in interrogating the data. Don\u2019t take a rating at face value. This runner produced a high rating because the fast tempo allowed him to rocket home. Can he do similar off a slow tempo? I don\u2019t subscribe to data or the eye being more right than the other. You really need both. The successful ones are definitely using both.\u201d Travis said.<\/p>\n

\u201cI use punting form. I look at the data and see that \u2018ok it\u2019s gone fast here\u2019, so I watch a replay and think ok he was held onto the whole time, or he was never in it,\u201d Nick added.<\/p>\n

\u201cYou do need to watch the race and sometimes on a replay you don\u2019t even need data. But pretty much everyone I know mixes both,” Travis said.<\/p>\n

\u201cI don\u2019t think people should take a bet purely off a rating without watching a replay.”<\/p>\n

\u201cThe edge now comes because the market is so heavily weighted to the rating of the last run.\u201d<\/p>\n\n <\/div>\n

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IMPORTANCE OF BETFAIR<\/h2>\n
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\u201cIt\u2019s another valuable tool. And you can learn so much from BSP\u2019s, late market moves and where the late money goes. I love the BSP feature most. I am generally against favourites, and I\u2019m usually trying to find some of that value. You frequently find something that is $21 on the corps and it has a $36 BSP,\u201d Nick said.<\/p>\n

“There are definitely times I see a horse in the yard and think \u201cThis can\u2019t win\u201d So you take the option to lay it on the Exchange.”<\/p>\n

\u201cYard is relative to price as well. If it has a negative and it\u2019s $3 it\u2019s a lay. But at $6 it might still be a back.\u201d He added.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe gulf between good tipping and good punting is huge. You need to know how to bet properly, not just tip the result,” Travis analysed.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe value is the key. The amount of options you have are extremely important.\u201d<\/p>\n\n <\/div>\n

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