{"id":45923,"date":"2024-08-14T10:03:41","date_gmt":"2024-08-14T00:03:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.betfair.com.au\/hub\/?p=45923"},"modified":"2024-09-12T10:23:21","modified_gmt":"2024-09-12T00:23:21","slug":"lay-back-with-betfair-with-david-pfundt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.betfair.com.au\/hub\/education\/lay-back-education\/lay-back-with-betfair-with-david-pfundt\/","title":{"rendered":"LAY BACK WITH BETFAIR: WAGERING &amp; DATA WITH DAVID PFUNDT"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"you-tube-video my-6 block\">\n    <div class=\"container\">\n    <div class=\"you-tube-video__video relative w-full lg:w-2\/3 lg:mx-auto\">\n      <div class=\"video-container relative standard\">\n        <div\n          id=\"youTubePlayerblock_36fbd4766eec9b2e7ac19336dd298b7a\"\n          data-video-id=\"Y6hWM-CP2Do\"\n          data-type=\"standard\"\n        >\n        <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n  <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"podcast-player mb-6 block\">\n    <div class=\"container\">\n        <iframe\n          style=\"border-radius:12px\"\n          src=https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/show\/2cWkWBIO4Tz8bvNHcQhP3A?si=b4718b27ce564432?utm_source=generator\n          width=\"100%\"\n          height=\"352\"\n          frameBorder=\"0\"\n          allowfullscreen=\"\"\n          allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\"\n          loading=\"lazy\"\n        ><\/iframe>\n    <\/div>\n  <\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">Who is David Pfundt?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>A chance afternoon with a few mates set the wheels in motion for David Pfundt, a data specialist who hails from a farm near Beaconsfield in Tasmania.<\/p>\n<p>With a background in computing and data analytics, Pfundt described himself as no more than a casual racing fan.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy uncle did train some slow horses in Tasmania, but as a kid I probably had only a recreational interest in it,\u201d Pfundt said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI did my degree in Tasmania which was a Bachelor of Computing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI started with a small consulting company in Launceston.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI spent a few months there and applied for a job at Telstra and managed to talk my way into it,\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cox Plate day 2015 will always be remembered as a time when Winx started arguably the most incredible run in the history of the sport, with the first of four wins in the premier weight for age race. But the day holds even more significance for Pfundt.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPreviously I followed Northerly and Sunline and I knew the Melbourne cup winners, but that was about it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt wasn\u2019t until 2015 when my mates invited me to the pub for a few bets. They had to drag me there as I wasn\u2019t really interested.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was Cox Plate day and we found a few winners and that was it for me. It wasn\u2019t a huge day but it got the cogs going in my head.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI probably was more interested in the fact you could play the game and that was enjoyable. A few months later I realised you have to work to be successful at it, so I started thinking \u2018where\u2019s the data\u2019 I can use.\u201d<\/p>\n\n          <\/div>\n                                                            <div class=\"flex flex-col items-start align-middle lg:flex-row my-6\">\n                              <\/div>\n                              <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n                <div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">WHAT IS FORM KING?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>\u201cForm king is a cloud based database and platform. It\u2019s more than just a database. Everything is positioned for me to be able to service business to consumer clients,\u201d Pfundt said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was a calling maybe, I don\u2019t know. In the early days when I was spending a lot of time on it and not selling anything it was really just an academic exercise.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut around 2020 when I started playing with sectional data and track speed that people might actually want to use.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI thought those technical factors and the data edge I had in my previous life made this quite unique.\u201d<\/p>\n\n          <\/div>\n                                                            <div class=\"flex flex-col items-start align-middle lg:flex-row my-6\">\n                              <\/div>\n                              <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n                <div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">WHAT DATA DO YOU COLLECT?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>\u201cI didn\u2019t touch sectional data until 2020,&#8221; Pfundt said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBefore that it was largely historical form guide data. That has since been taken over by sectionals, weight data, weather etc.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAfter that it comes down to your eye and how you feel about it. Your eye can see things that might defy a stat or falsify a piece of data.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI start with the data and finalise it with what my eyes tell me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI need to get a feel for how strong the race is and how many chances there are in it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI like to turn off public odds before I do my form. I don\u2019t want to be anchored by what I know the odds are.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThings like peak form. You just now the market zones in on those really fast times. Sometimes at their peril. The late markets will correct that quite often. So, it\u2019s important to be aware of that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBeware if an entire race goes too well. Peak runs for 1<sup>st<\/sup>, 2<sup>nd<\/sup>, 3<sup>rd<\/sup>, 4<sup>th<\/sup> etc. Be careful with those.\u201d<\/p>\n\n          <\/div>\n                                                            <div class=\"flex flex-col items-start align-middle lg:flex-row my-6\">\n                              <\/div>\n                              <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n                <div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">HOW DID YOU DISCOVER BETFAIR?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>Pfundt said he discovered Betfair, &#8220;early in 2016 when I started to have a regular bet on the weekends. The thing I loved immediately was that you could get the information you needed that I couldn\u2019t get anywhere else.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The data was very hard to find around the place. I remember actually googling for horse racing data, thinking it has to be out here somewhere.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So I started scraping for my own learning activities.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n          <\/div>\n                                                            <div class=\"flex flex-col items-start align-middle lg:flex-row my-6\">\n                              <\/div>\n                              <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n                <div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">WHAT DATA DID YOU SOURCE?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>&#8220;I didn\u2019t touch sectional data until 2020,&#8221; said Pfundt.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Before that it was largely historical form guide data. That has since been taken over by sectionals, weight data etc.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;After that it comes down to your eye and how you feel about it. Your eye can see things that might defy a stat or falsify a piece of data.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I start with the data and finalise it with what my eyes tell me. I need to get a feel for how strong is this race? And how many chances are there in it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I like to turn off public odds before I do my form. I don\u2019t want to be anchored by what I know the odds actually are.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Things like peak form, recent peak form. You just now the market zones in on those really fast times. Sometimes at their peril. The late markets will correct that quite often. So it\u2019s important to be aware of that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Beware if an entire race goes too well. Peak runs for 1<sup>st<\/sup>, 2<sup>nd<\/sup>, 3<sup>rd<\/sup>, 4<sup>th<\/sup> etc. Be careful with those,&#8221; Pfundt explained.<\/p>\n\n          <\/div>\n                                                            <div class=\"flex flex-col items-start align-middle lg:flex-row my-6\">\n                              <\/div>\n                              <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n                <div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT RATING A HORSE?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>\u201cIt\u2019s quite a process. I\u2019m supported by a huge framework of formula and data I\u2019ve built. I have a specific formula for every 200m split on track speeds at different venues,&#8221; he explained.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Pre-race a computer makes a guess as to how strong a race is. And post-race once you have verified times available and critically sectionals, how fast did they run early? And did that change the outcomes?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Everything is a factor. Moving the barriers, moving the rails, on the day track bias etc.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you can stamp the bias before everyone else, you can have an edge there.\u201d<\/p>\n\n          <\/div>\n                                                            <div class=\"flex flex-col items-start align-middle lg:flex-row my-6\">\n                              <\/div>\n                              <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n                <div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">WHY DID YOU BUILD IT?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>\u201cIt was a calling maybe, I don\u2019t know. In the early days when I was spending a lot of time on it and not selling anything it was really just an academic exercise.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But around 2020 when I started playing with sectional data and track speed I found that people might actually want to use it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I thought those technical factors and the data edge I had in my previous life made this quite unique,\u201d Pfundt recalls.<\/p>\n\n          <\/div>\n                                                            <div class=\"flex flex-col items-start align-middle lg:flex-row my-6\">\n                              <\/div>\n                              <\/div>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n                <div class=\"expert-tips__row block\">\n      <div class=\"container reduced-width relative py-6 md:pt-4\">\n        <div class=\"expert-tips__wrap pb-6 lg:pb-12\">\n                      <h2 class=\"font-bold font-montserrat text-xl lg:text-[26px] text-bf-yellow text-center md:text-left mb-4 uppercase\">HOW DOES BETFAIR HELP?<\/h2>\n                              <div class=\"mb-2.5 md:mb-3 text-sm md:text-base\">\n            <p>\u201cHands down, Betfair is the most important wagering product in Australia for shaping and understanding markets,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEveryone follows Betfair, and Betfair moves Australian markets. It is the only thing I have open late before a race.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Betfair is truly on your side. The margins in the Betfair markets are so much less. 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